Is DNSSec needed / Possible with namecoin?

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I'm interested in the most secure and reliable Namecoin DNS resolution as possible, although I admit I don't fully understand how these concepts relate to each other (Namecoin and DNS)

Is DNSSec needed or possible with Namecoin based DNS services? Would that come at a higher "cost" (more namecoins are needed?)

goodguys_activate

Posted 2012-11-13T08:44:53.017

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Do you mean TLS/SSL?kermit 2013-03-24T14:18:36.777

@phelix No. A hacked DNS makes TLS/SSL insecure. DNSSec prevents a hacked DNS and makes TLS/SSL (HTTPS) more securegoodguys_activate 2013-03-24T15:47:47.833

I meant TLS/SSL via namecoin. How could namecoin dns NOT be secure? It is blockchain-secured.kermit 2013-03-24T22:09:10.220

@phelix The link between the host and the recursive resolver is the weak link and can be hacked. Not the resolver and the namecoin lookup proxy (not Bind <--> namecoind)goodguys_activate 2013-03-24T22:46:02.833

@phelix So when is Namecoin going to get a reboot? I think you're one of the devs there no? Reboot = different design.goodguys_activate 2013-03-24T22:46:49.463

I'm not a real dev, I'm more of a fanboy. Maybe that's why I don't understand your question / don't see the weak link. :)kermit 2013-03-25T13:14:09.967

There are some comments about DNSSEC on https://dot-bit.org/Namespace:Domain_names_v2.0#TLS_support (but they are not very productive).

Habbie 2013-10-07T09:39:21.573

(Also comments about TLS/SSL there, you should read them if this is what you actually worry about.)Habbie 2013-10-07T09:57:31.407

Answers

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No DNSSec is not needed with Namecoin. The mapping from name to IP cannot be forged.

However, DNSSec requires changes to resolver libraries so the domains are actually cryptographically verified.

Namecoin, to be secure, requires similar changes to resolver libraries because nothing in the current resolver libraries actually checks the integrity of the results.

Anyone can run software to verify that a traditional (insecure, no cryptography) nameserver that resolves .bit addresses actually return addresses corresponding to the blockchain.

Thus namecoin name servers can be ensured to not "fool all the people all the time" by having some servers that continuously check the integrity of the results produced by the insecure but backwards compatible nameserver.

user239558

Posted 2012-11-13T08:44:53.017

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1This answer is incomplete. Yes, Name/IP mappings in Namecoin are protected, but if you use the 'ns' type instead of 'ip', this is like an insecure delegation in DNSSEC - making the original question valid.Habbie 2013-10-07T09:24:36.573

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If you wish to use DANE to secure TLS then yes, you will need DNSSEC. In absense of certificate authorities, that probably is a good idea.

https://github.com/hlandau/ncdns has some hints, but I suspect it is a little more complex than that, they deal with the DNSSEC enforcing recursive resolver.

Software that DNSSEC validates itself (such as the FireFox add-on) will need to be told how to trust the DS records as they will not descend from the ICANN root.

Alice Wonder

Posted 2012-11-13T08:44:53.017

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