Can I use an old Pentium 4 desktop for mining if I upgrade it with a good GPU?

I know that the most important thing for mining is a GPU. I read some stuff about it but I never read a specific answer to this simple question.

I have some old desktop computer. Pentium 4 (~1GHz) processor and (maybe 256-)512 MBs or RAM. Can I use this computer as a base for a simple mining machine if I can just put in a decent GPU?? I'm just strolling the internet for second-hand GPUs and asking friends, but I cannot afford to invest too much in it, so I'd like to be able to use that desktop for my setup.

Steven Roose

Posted 2012-05-24T23:34:15.800

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PCI-e on the mobo? – Stephen Gornick – 2012-05-25T12:59:00.617

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With a decent enough GPU (or GPUs), your machine will be a fine miner. The only spec that ACTUALLY matters for mining is the GPU. RAM, CPU, etc don't have much of an impact.

Shamoon

Posted 2012-05-24T23:34:15.800

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It is possible, but you really should first pause for a moment and consider a few things before proceeding further:

What graphics card will you buy - Go to this wiki page, look which graphics cards are good and then do a search for what you can find in stores. If you're looking for the most efficient mining cards, you might not find them, so you should take that into account.
Check whether your motherboard can support said graphics card (shoudln't be an issue in most cases), whether it will fit in your computer case (can be an issue if it is very small or crammed), and whether your power supply can handle it (which probably will be an issue with higher-end cards).
Check whether mining is really the thing you want to be doing - the profit margins might not be too high at the moment. You can for example use my mining calculator - put in how much your graphics card and power supply will cost you, how much power the whole computer will consume, how fast you'll be hashing, and how much does electricity cost you. It might turn out that you'll be mining at a loss. Even if you are not in red, lower the price of Bitcoins a bit and see whether you are still profitable. Difficulty appears to be rising slowly and the price of Bitcoins can always go down, so you have to be mindful that what you can get at the moment might not be the same as what you can get in the future.

If everything appears to be in order for you, you can try going for it, otherwise you might want to consider just buying some Bitcoins at an exchange and hoping the price will rise. So all in all, it is possible to use your old hardware with a new graphics card to profitably mine Bitcoins, but you have to consider a few factors before making the decision.

As for a pool that is good for a small miner, basically any of them work. Compare them and pick whichever works best for you.

ThePiachu

Posted 2012-05-24T23:34:15.800

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How can I check what graphic cards my motherboard supports? Points 1 and 3 are ok. I wanna start mining for sure, but just on small scale. It wouldn't that kind a risico if I can use that desktop machine i have because I have free electricity in my student home, so other than the GPU I won't have any other costs :) – Steven Roose – 2012-05-25T19:05:48.420

@stevenroose Check what slot does your motherboard have for graphics card - whether it is AGP, PCI-e or the like. Just look up your motherboard's model number online and you should find the information. – ThePiachu – 2012-05-25T19:32:43.330

It's likely that your motherboard supports only AGP video cards. It's unlikely that you will be able to find a video card with AGP that will provide a decent price/performance ratio, taking into account the cost of the card (minimal for something so old) and electric consumption.

The Radeon HD 4670 entry on the MHC lists ~40 Mhash/s. That's less than 1 BTC. At $5/BTC exchange rate, you're making ~$4/mo. If your power is free or ultra cheap, it might be worth it, but you're still making less than 1 BTC/month.

Unless the exchange rate shoots up, it's probably not worth it.

Colin Dean

Posted 2012-05-24T23:34:15.800

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How can I check what graphic cards my motherboard supports? – Steven Roose – 2012-05-25T18:59:33.480

Does it look like an AGP slot or a PCI Express slot (the two longer ones depicted)? You may also be able to use a regular PCI video card, but that's unlikely be be worthwhile for similar reasons that AGP is not worthwhile.

– Colin Dean – 2012-05-27T15:58:13.603

I think it's a AGP slot, it's not mentioned anywhere on the hardware. But it looks brown (like I saw AGP being in pictures). But I also have several (4) white slots, of which some were used by some ethernet-like plug and some for audio I guess. Are these PCI? I have no idea, never been that hard into hardware :) Can I use those maybe? – Steven Roose – 2012-05-27T23:09:34.767

I must say this is amusing to read in 2017 :) – Havnar – 2017-11-28T22:29:19.237

As ThePiachu says, the PSU needs to be suitable.

Some graphics cards require 2 (or even 4, I think) molex cables from your power supply to provide additional power. The wattage from your power supply needs to be adequate to power all the components connected to it, and cheap PSU's often don't even provide their stated wattage (or clean enough output to power for a gfx card). Further, approaching the stated maximum wattage for a given PSU pushes its fan into overdrive and can be extremely noisy. You may need to buy additional cooling fans the help keep the graphics card cool, which draw addional power and need additional cables from the PSU.

I find this website particularly helpful in picking an appropriate PSU for my PCs: http://www.silentpcreview.com/section10.html

Check out this thread to see some typical (and atypical!) mining rigs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.0

Highly Irregular

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